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Wayback Wednesday… Over-Pricing and Under-Offering

If there were two issues I’d have to put at the very top of my question pile, there would be the ones…  In the original post, I started with the Sellers… so we’ll start with the Buyers this time.

Buyers want a great deal.  We all understand that, and as a real estate agent, I’m supportive.  Even the Sellers get it.  But there are two problems.  The first one I wrote about in a couple of years ago, hereBuyers, in their zeal to get a great deal, offer too low to start with.  The find a property where the price has been cut to the bone, and then they offer WAY lower.

The problem there is that the seller, whether institutional, or a “regular” seller, doesn’t see the low-ball offer as being serious… then they attach the same feeling to the buyer that made the offer… they aren’t serious.  And the seller, if they send back a counter offer, reply with a counter offer that shows that… like maybe knocking $100 off the price.  Negotiations stall.  That doesn’t help them get the house… and it wastes everyone’s time, including their own.

A few years ago, when I originally wrote the post, there was blood in the water, so to speak, and it was still an issue.  Now, especially at the entry-level end of the market, that is NOT the case.  It is actually a Seller’s Market for homes that are priced well.  I am seeing an increasing number of listings selling for VERY close to list price within days.

Sellers want to get the most from their house.  It doesn’t matter if they are a corporate seller or someone moving to take advantage of a job opportunity… or even a seller doing a short sale.  Of course, just as the sellers aren’t terribly concerned with the needs of the buyers, buyers don’t really care about the needs of the seller to get top-dollar for their property.  And buyers aren’t looking at many over-priced properties. 

They know which properties are over-priced, too.  More and more, I’m seeing buyers that are VERY sophisticated in terms of knowing the value of a particular property, usually before choosing to look at it the first time.  If it isn’t priced within a few percent of where it should be, they probably won’t even look at it.  Not 10%… not even 5%.  More like 2-3%, closer on higher priced homes.

The end result, is that the home sits on the market for a while with few, or even no viewings, much less offers.  After a while, the sellers reduce the price, but by then the home is stigmatized.  The price drops more.  In the end, the home sells for less that it might have sold had the original price been more competitive. 

 

What about short sales?

They are the new wrinkle.  And I didn’t really address them the first time around.  But some similar rules apply…

Sellers, price realistically for the market.  Don’t worry about what the bank will accept, worry about a price that will get an honest contract.  Realistically…  Not too high OR too low.  Anything else is a waste of everyone’s time.

Buyer, offer realistically.  A rule of thumb I use on short sale offers is that if the offer isn’t going to be within a couple of points of the list price, don’t bother.  If the list price is insanely high or low, don’t bother.  If you can’t afford to sit on the offer, waiting as much as six months for the bank to get their act together, don’t bother.

I know that is harsh, but it is reality.  I actually have a partner that is VERY successful at getting short sales sold.  It isn’t easy or fun for anyone…  But, it might beat the heck out of some of the alternatives for the seller, and offers great opportunity for the buyer.

Wayback Wednesday… Zestimate Accuracy in Atlanta

You just have to love Zillow’s Zestimates.  Log in and look… poof… there is the Zestmate for your home.  Couldn’t be easier.  It’s almost too easy.  OK, it IS too easy.  And while I love the Zestimate just as much as everyone else, I also know that the chances of it being right are pretty slim.

"Lincoln Heights"I don’t want to slam Zestimates, though.  They actually ARE quite useful.  Their usefulness isn’t in their application to individual houses… it has more to do with looking at Zestimates for larger areas… ZIP codes, cities, regions.  The statistical variations that are the problem with looking at individual houses start cancelling each other out.  what we are left with is a pretty good measure of home values for an area.

Last year I posted up a breakdown of the Zestimate accuracy of individual listings in the Atlanta Metro Statistical Area.  The bottom line is that the Zestimate has about a 1 in 5 chance of giving you a value within 5% of the real market value of your house.  And the y are just as likely to be high as they are low.

If you are just curious, it is a fun tool.  If you REALLY need to know, you should talk with an Appraiser or a Real Estate Agent (depending on WHY you really need to know).  And remember, the real estate agent that tells you the highest value is probably wrong… and might even know they are wrong.  In the business, we call it “buying a listing”.  The strategy there is to promise a high listing price, and then come back after you are in a listing agreement and try to get the price down to where it should have been in the first place.  The biggest problem with that strategy is that it completely wastes the prime market time… when the house is first listed.  The end result is that the price usually ends up lower than if you had opted for a slightly lower price to begin with.

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Wayback Wednesday… For First Time Home-buyers…

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A couple of years ago I did a little three part series answering some thoughts that many first time home-buyers have.  Of course, all new home-buyers don’t have all of these same thoughts during the buying process, but most have at least one or two of these.  Be sure to check the original posts for more details.

Is the Market Weak?

Two years ago when I wrote the original post, the market was a lot weaker than it is now.  There was a LOT more inventory, and the sales were actually a bit lower than they are now.  In most of the segments where there is first-time home-buyer activity (Under $200k, mostly), absorption rates are running 4½-7 months.  In that range, anything under 6 months is considered strong.  So, while there is still a perception among buyers that they are in complete control, that isn’t necessarily the case.

Of course, there is still some buyer power… but it isn’t on the “best deals” (I actually mean cheapest advertised prices, which may or may not be great deals).  Bank-owned properties are flying off the shelf.  If you think you like it, get the offer in.  If it is owned by a person rather than a corporation, there might be more leverage, but if they are pricing it in the trenches to compete with the banks, then the same rules apply.

I Need to See ALL the Options…

OK, in all honesty, this one isn’t limited to first time buyers…  This is a HUGE issue for a lot of buyers.  It is subsiding a little, but only because it is easier to see all of the options.  But even with that going for buyers now, there are still a lot that are missing out because they just want to “look at a couple more houses”.  As a Real Estate Agent, I understand.  But I also HATE making the call to a prospective buyer telling them that the house we looked at last week, the one that they REALLY wanted, is under contract.

I encourage buyers to look at houses.  But, at the same time, I have to remind them that when they see the house they think they want, delay can mean loss.  Maybe not such a problem if it is wildly overpriced, but if the price is fair, take the shot.  There might not be another chance.

I Just Found a REAL Bargain…

Ask any real estate agent and they will tell you that they have heard that line before.  Every once in a while, it’s true.  Usually the deal falls apart when the “little issues” start getting added up.  And let me tell you about some of the little issues that I have come across…

  • $50,000 worth of mold remediation
  • $20,000 roof replacement
  • $15,000 AC system replacement
  • $45,000 in structural deficiencies
  • $70,000 for water damage
  • $100,000 in complete interior renovation (that was on a house listed for $75,000 in a neighborhood where houses without the interior issues were listed for $100,000 to $125,000)

If they don’t go sour with just a closer look at the actual costs to deal with the “little issues”, then they generally fall apart during the inspection.  And for first-time home-buyers, they usually should fall apart.

 

There ARE some great deals in the market, but they are seldom the house advertised the lowest price.  And even when they are, keep in mind that they will usually require a major infusion of cash right after closing and before they will be ready to move into.  Of course, there are FHA 203k loans (and I have a mortgage broker that can hook you up with one of those) but they aren’t the magic bullet…

Working with an agent that understands more about the house than whether the drapes and carpets match is a pretty solid start.  You know where to find me.

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$34M for a Royal Wedding? What Does That Get in Gwinnett County GA?

Cover of "Royal Wedding"

Cover of Royal Wedding

Are you “Royal Wedding”ed out yet?  Honestly, I was a bit over it a week ago.  I appreciate the historic significance of the event, but knowing what type of diapers Kate and William wore as infants and interviews with people that saw them in the hallways at grade school is a little much.

And then I heard that the estimated cost of the event was between $34M and $60M (British Tax Payers shelled out about $30M for security in addition to the cost of the nuptials…).  And I got to wondering…

What kind of Real Estate would $34M buy in Gwinnett County, GA?

Honestly, that would be a REALLY generous budget around here.  The most expensive house listed in the county right now is “only” $6,750,000.  It is lovely 8 bedroom, 10 full/2 half bathroom home in the Sugarloaf Country Club (and it you want to buy it, I would be GLAD to help you out… Proof of Funds are required for showings).

There would even be a nice chunk of change left over to buy a warehouse to keep the toys in… and there would be a pretty nice toy budget in there, as well.

What about a nice lake house on Lake Lanier?

Well… I happen to know of one.  it is a mere $4,500,000 and has 5 bedrooms, 5 full baths and 2 half baths.  There is also a 6 car garage and just over 6 acres of grounds… with 750 feet of lake frontage.  Lake Lanier is just north of the Atlanta Metro area, between Gainesville and Cumming, GA.  It borders Gwinnett, Hall and Dawson Counties.

 

There are some homes in Buckhead and a few other areas around here where there are homes between $10M and $20M… but these are pretty interesting homes.  And $34,000,000 is a LOT of money.  In fact, ALL of the homes sold in Lilburn, GA, during the 1st Quarter of 2011 totaled up to about $16,800,000.  That is a lot of coin…

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Renovation RoI Revisited…

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Just last week I wrote a post highlighting the results of the Remodeling Magazine’s Cost vs. Value study.  And in this month’s Realtor® Magazine, the newest results are published.  The reason I like this particular study is that it breaks down the results by region.  It would be great to break it down further to metro area… and then maybe ZIP code… and possibly subdivision… or even street… but that isn’t happening.  Region is good.

The numbers for the Southeast are interesting. The Top 5 Renovations for Return on Investment (RoI) are:

  • Mid-range entry door (steel) – 135.5%
  • Mid-range garage door – 91.6%
  • Upscale siding (fiber cement) – 85.4%
  • Mid-range basement remodel – 79.4%
  • Upscale windows (vinyl) – 77.9%

There are a few things to note here…  This is based on average costs and conditions.  Obviously, if there are extenuating circumstances, the RoI could be more or less.  If you are able to do work yourself, the RoI could be much greater.  One of the assumptions here is that a contractor would be hired to do all work.

So, let’s look a little deeper…

Mid-range Entry door (steel) – 135.5% The average cost on this renovation is $1098 and the increase in value is $1488.  It is worth noting that a fiberglass door adds more value ($2117), but because of the significantly higher cost ($3348), yields a poorer result (63.2%).  This goes to show that it may be more prudent to NOT splurge.  Much of this is due to “Neighborhood Norms”.  If most of the neighborhood has steel doors, and you add a high end wooden or fiberglass door, you might not get the same result as going to a nice steel door.  That isn’t to say that using a good grade of steel door wouldn’t be wise… powder-coated and rust resistant units will likely maintain their value better than low-bid doors that aren’t quite as nice.

Old wooden door at our former garage.
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Mid-range garage door – 91.6% This is a tough one.  The article suggests that an uninsulated, single wall door without windows could provide the highest RoI.  However, adding windows doesn’t add tremendously to the cost (maybe $200 on to the stated cost of $1178), but might add a little to the projected RoI ($1079).  Insulation and windows come down to preference and usage.  Those of us that use the garage for more than just a place to park a car really like the additional benefit of an insulated door and windows for natural light.

Upscale siding (fiber cement) – 85.4% The cost of this renovation was averaged at $13,106.  That assumed 1250 square feet of siding, and an average amount of trim.  The Added Value for the fiber cement siding came up to $11,197.  Again, we need to look to what is in the neighborhood, and what is on the house.  Changing out wood siding in good condition won’t yield the same result in a neighborhood with brick homes as getting rid of wood siding in bad shape in a neighborhood with lots of homes already upgraded to fiber cement.

Mid-range basement remodel – 79.4% I almost hate to include this one… In my experience, it is rare that a finished basement adds significantly to the value of a home.  It seems that the buyer is always looking for it to be finished differently that the seller has finished it.  However, the existence of a basement DOES add significantly to the value of a home.  The average cost and return from the article are $57,627 and $45,757… which means that you will still be upside-down by almost $12k after doing the renovation.

Upscale windows (vinyl) – 77.9% I was a little surprised about this…  I don’t normally think of vinyl windows on upscale homes, but there it is.  The cost was $12,878 and it added a value of $10,027.  There wasn’t any additional information regarding style or number of windows for the survey, so I can’t comment on that… however, I would assume that the windows would be wood on the inside (stain-grade) with heavy vinyl on the outside.  This would allow for low maintenance while keeping the style of wood inside.  I would also assume that the windows were low E glass and at least double paned.

A couple of important notes…

  • The White House renovation
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    If you have the capability of doing the work yourself, it can make doing the work financially worthwhile… depending on how much you value your labor.  If it will take 50 hours for you to complete a renovation, and you are saving $500 by doing it yourself, is it worth it for you to “make” $10/hour for your time?

  • Even more that the numbers bear out nationally, in the South Atlantic Region, the renovations that have the best payback all have to do with “Curb Appeal. Doors, windows, siding, garage doors…  The only one that snuck in there that doesn’t belong seems to be the basement.  This goes to show that buyers want to be ‘wowed’ from the moment they step out of the car.  To get sold quickly and for the highest price, curb appeal is key, now more than ever.  You can get down in the gutter and fight it out with the short sales and foreclosures, but many buyers are looking right past those for homes that are “ready to go” rather than “ready to work on”.
  • The biggest change, and one that didn’t make it anywhere on the list, can be had for little money.  The RoI would be off the charts…  Paint. If your walls are dingy, get out the rollers and paint the interior.  Use modern colors and do the job right.  For just a couple hundred dollars in materials, the value of your home can go up by thousands of dollars.  The impact is HUGE.
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