5 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

4834 Elkhorn Hill Drive

Suwanee, GA 30024

$3950000
Welcome Home to your Elegant Rustic Style Lodge with unique custom finishes and high quality Craftsmanship throughout the home. A splendid setting where elegance meets nature. This 5BD/6.3 BA home (2 of the BD's are master Suites)has private view of the Greg Norman Golf Course, a pond and mature woods. Backyard features pool w/hot tub,waterfall and Firepit for your everyday enjoyment. 2 Cooks kitchens, 6 FP's,Spa area on terrace level w/Sauna,Steam shower,massage room, work out room & Aerobic room.3 Laundry rooms, Elevator, Wide plank hand scraped walnut floors.

Summary

MLS #5650314
Price3950000
Bedrooms5
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage10185
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

7 Bed / 7 Bath Home in THE RIVER CLUB

4745 Cuyahoga Cove

Suwanee, GA 30024

$3790000
ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE FRENCH PROVINCIAL ESTATES TO REACH MARKET IN N. ATLANTA, BOASTING UNPRECEDENTED DETAIL & ARCHITECTURAL CUSTOM CRAFTSMANSHIP.... SITTING ON A LEVEL CUL-DE-SAC LOT YET PERCHED TALL ABOVE THE GREG NORMAL GOLF COURSE, WITH PANORAMIC VIEWS AND 380 FT OF LAKE FRONTAGE, THIS HOME TOOK ALMOST $1 MILLION IN HAND-CUT TENNESSEE STONEWORK ALONE. ENJOY WIDE-PLANK HEART OF PINE FLOORING, LARGE AND ENTERTAINING OPEN FLOOR PLAN. ABSOLUTELY STUNNING GOURMET CHEF'S KITCHEN WITH DOUBLE SUB ZEROS- AND VIRTUALLY EVERY CONCEIVABLE OPTION. 4 FIREPLACES. 5-CAR

Summary

MLS #5718436
Price3790000
Bedrooms7
Bathrooms (Full)7
Square Footage11738
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

4914 Kettle River Point

Suwanee, GA 30024

$2599000
Welcome home to this Impeccable Family Retreat - you'll never have to go on vacation again! Stunning brick & stone estate situated on almost an acre of pure luxury overlooking the 4th hole. No detail has been spared inside and out with superb craftmanship on all 3 levels. Perfect home for entertaining or everyday family living. Outdoor amenities are unparalleled w/ pool, hot tub, firepit, putting green, poolside cabana w/ swim up bar. Elan system for whole house entertainment w/ control 4 for media. Master on main with Jr masters on the upper and terrace floors.

Summary

MLS #5664792
Price2599000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage10597
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

4695 Whitestone Way

Suwanee, GA 30024

$2599000
Custom Home in The River Club. 6 Bedroom 6.5 Ba on double lot backing golf course. 1st floor features large 2 story foyer overlooking LR with handsome study and large entertaining DR. Gourmet kitchen overlooks oversized Family Room and covered porch. Master on main and 2nd bedroom on main. Upstairs features 3 bedrooms all with private baths and large dressing area. Terrace level features bedroom and bath, Bar area, game room and theatre.

Summary

MLS #5751567
Price2599000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage8412
Square Footage SourceAppraisal
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

4605 Whitestone Way

Suwanee, GA 30024

$2500000
Exquisite estate home with the finest attention to detail throughout. Overlooking 4th green, home features marble inlayed foyer, Liv Rm, Office w/FP, opulent Great Rm w/FP, state of the art Kitchen, Stunning Keeping Rm w/beamed ceiling & FP, Romantic Master on main, elevator, World class terrace Lvl w/Rec Rm w/FP, Bar, Billiards Rm w/FP, Humidor, Home Theater(all equipment stays!), 2nd master suite & most beautiful finish work in the River Club. Pool & spa w/stone surround, stunning outdoor living areas. WOW!

Summary

MLS #5722910
Price2500000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage9476
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

869 Big Horn Hollow

Suwanee, GA 30024

$2450000
Welcome home...you've earned this! Enter an innovative floor plan built for entertaining & family enjoyment. Delight in vaulted wood beamed ceilings throughout, wood, brick & travertine floors, wide baseboards, stained doors throughout. The chef of the family will revel in the showcase kitchen of granite and brick. Master on main, separate his & hers baths/closets with car wash shower for both to enjoy. Terrace level is filled with customized features including media room with built in show cases for memorabilia, bar, wine cellar, game room, cozy rec room with fireplace

Summary

MLS #5713023
Price2450000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage9663
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

912 Little Darby Lane

Suwanee, GA 30024

$2099000
Old world European inspired master piece, indescribable detail thruout,in private setting, 2 story grand foyer w/spiral staircase, pecky cypress paneled study, gourmet kitchen views to fireside keep rm ,Private master suite on main level w/spa like master bath, his/hers closets w/custom built-ins, whole house audio system ,cover porch w/outdoor fireplace/Terrace level features: Pub style bar,w/1800 bottle wine cellar, theater seats 8 features concession stand, billiard rm,card rm,spa rm w/sauna, salt water pool & spa w/cascading waterfalls & outdoor fire pit.

Summary

MLS #5693604
Price2099000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage9755
Square Footage SourceBuilder
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

962 Little Darby Lane

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1849999
Exquisite details with superb finishing mark this amazing River Club home! Formal DR w pecky cypress walls, rustic aged exposed beams, handkerchief ceiling in foyer w built in bookcases. Kitchen built for 2 chefs w island feat all Viking appl & custom inlay cabinetry. Owners suite on main. Barn door leads to pool bath, mud rm w laundry & hammered copper sink. Junior master w spa bath. Finished terrace level& outdoor living at its finest. Complete w private 1 Bdrm Guest House w kitchenette & screened porch overlooking saltwater pool w spa.

Summary

MLS #5645985
Price1849999
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage7603
Square Footage SourceBuilder
StatusActive

Features

5 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

878 Crescent River Pass

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1799999
Stunning Brick & Stone Manor home w good golf course views. Outdoor living rooms on multi levels w fireplace overlooking pool & waterfall spa. Chefs kitchen w mixed woods. Working island w veggie sink, warming drawer, Wolf gas coooktop, dual dishwashers, subzero and wine chiller. Main floor boasts study w fireplace, living room w fireplace & stone walls, formal dining room, & owners suite on main. 3 generous ensuite bedrooms upstairs. Terrace level finished w media, billiards area, custom bar, wine, office, & guest bedroom w full bath.

Summary

MLS #5758623
Price1799999
Bedrooms5
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage7316
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

5212 Boulder Bluff Way

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1789900
A cul-de-sac lot, this 6 bed home offers an abundance of outdoor living spaces,spa pool & fire pit backing up to natural woods. Foyer flanked w/a large DR & study.The kitchen has it all: island w/serving bar,walk-in pantry & counter space for the home chef.The vaulted kitchen-family room is accented w/ truss beams. Main floor master has spacious his/her walk in closets. A finished terrace w/ theater, family/billiards & game rooms,full kitchen, weight room, guest suite & BA completes this home.

Summary

MLS #5687744
Price1789900
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage7553
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in None

2915 Southers Circle

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1680000
Peaceful estate with all the amenities-an entertainer's delight! Enter through the iron gate & follow the drive through the trees to your new dream home. A must see with no detail forgotten! Gorgeous Chef's kitchen open to keeping room & breakfast area. Master on main. Finished basement w/full kitchen, custom walnut bar, theater room & more. Saltwater pool/spa with auto cover & outdoor fireplace. HUGE shop w/14' RV door & second 12' door, foam insulation, wired 220 w/gas lines run. Enjoy the convenience of the Chattahoochee Recreation Area out your back door.

Summary

MLS #5740199
Price1680000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage5385
Square Footage SourceAppraisal
StatusActive

Features

4 Bed / 4 Bath Home in The River Club

4870 Hanalei Hollow

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1599990
Home must be sold with a 18-24 month lease back. Fabulous Arthur Rutenberg Custom Home siutated in the River Valley at The River Club. This stunning home features an open floor plan for entertaining, gourmet chef's kitchen and owners suite on the main floor. Upstairs are 3 additional on suite bedrooms and a bonus room. Home has amazing view of 16th fairway and is walking distance to the club. This home is sold furnished.

Summary

MLS #5765916
Price1599990
Bedrooms4
Bathrooms (Full)4
Square Footage4333
Square Footage SourceBuilder
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in THE RIVER CLUB

4732 Blackwater Way

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1599900
Sitting beautifully on the 6th hole, this home has all the extensive trim/finishes any discriminating buyer will appreciate! Filled w natural light w features to include solid teak flooring, true hand crafted masonry frpl, planked walls in FR, waterworks faucets throughout, custom interior trim & built ins, calcutta gold marble counter tops, & custom hardware. Home is accented w hand baked brick, stone foundation & slate roof for welcoming appeal. Owner suite up w frpl & bath w waterworks tub, steam shower & bidet. Terr lvl w kitchen/bar & bath. 4 car garage too!

Summary

MLS #5566477
Price1599900
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage7800
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

7 Bed / 8 Bath Home in Belmore Estates

4994 Price Drive

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1599000
Stunning brick & stone estate on over 1 acre in private gated community. Resort style pool featuring waterfall,slide,hot tub, & fire pit plus covered porch w fireplace.4car garage, 8 fireplaces, 3 laundry rooms. Huge owner's suite w private balcony, spacious secondary bedrooms & lofts. Gourmet kitchen well-equipped w high-end appliances opens to spacious keeping room & breakfast room overlooking pool.Terrace level has 2nd kitchen/bar, theater, fitness, steam sauna, game room, den, & guest suite. MANY details and UPGRADES! Luxurious Lifestyle!

Summary

MLS #5765505
Price1599000
Bedrooms7
Bathrooms (Full)8
Square Footage11592
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

6 Bed / 6 Bath Home in The River Club

4505 Whitestone Way

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1550000
Tuscan columns and a wrought iron railing greet you at the covered porch of this brick & stone estate, inviting you to step inside. The gracious interior includes 12' ceilings, panelled study, sunny solarium with brick walls & soaring arched windows, a chef's dream kitchen w/ honed granite counter tops, soapstone apron sink, top of the line appliances. Tremendous entertaining space with covered outdoor living space including an outdoor dining porch. Guest suite on main lined by leaded glass windows w/ access to the covered porch.

Summary

MLS #5634131
Price1550000
Bedrooms6
Bathrooms (Full)6
Square Footage8187
Square Footage SourceAppraisal
StatusActive

Features

4 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

878 Big Horn Hollow

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1499999
Superb craftsmanship reflect in the River Club brick/stone home. Welcoming foyer feat inlaid floors & flanked by gentleman's Study w custom builtins & formal DR. Natural light fills the GR w fireplace & wet bar. Gourmet Kit feat dual Dishwashers, Subzero, Thermador 6 burner cooktop & dual convection ovens, large island & 2 pantries! Main level owner ste w sitting area & spa bath. Stained Canadian Maple hardwood flooring, 2 ensuite bdrms up & junior owner ste w jetted tub & dual vanities. Fin terr includes billiards/game room & gym w rubber flooring w full bath.

Summary

MLS #5758524
Price1499999
Bedrooms4
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage7133
Square Footage SourceAppraisal
StatusActive

Features

5 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

932 Chattooga Trace

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1490000
Modern Day CHIC nestled in the ultra exclusive River Club. Every detail was carefully selected and quality crafted; Reclaimed wood beams & finishes, shiplap & birch walls, Luster Stone walls & ceilings, rich moldings. Master suite on main offers serenity & privacy. Open 2 story family room w/ stone fireplace & T&G ceiling adjacent to the modern renovated chef's kitchen. Enjoy alfresco dining on the covered porch or enjoy smores by the fire on the amazing renovated Trex deck that overlooks the pristine gardens. Full daylight terrace level awaits your finishes.

Summary

MLS #5760185
Price1490000
Bedrooms5
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage5780
Square Footage SourceAppraisal
StatusActive

Features

5 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

5108 Coosa Court

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1475000
Located in a Private setting,home has been meticulously maintained paneled study, gourmet kitchen views to fireside vaulted keep rm,hardwood flooring throughout,master suite on main level w/spa like master bath, his/hers closets w/custom built-ins,second master suite upstairs,large secondary bedrooms w/private baths & great closet space,laundry on main & upstairs cover screen porch w/outdoor fireplace amazing backyard w/stone paver patio that views cascading waterfall & outdoor fire pit.Home backs up to nature preserve,prefect lot for pool walk out from your main floor

Summary

MLS #5765721
Price1475000
Bedrooms5
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage6603
Square Footage SourceTax Record
StatusActive

Features

5 Bed / 4 Bath Home in The River Club

4971 Roaring Fork Pass

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1444800
Stunning J. Patrick O'Donnell brick & stone masterpiece brimming with character in The River Club. Situated on wide lot with preserved forest area, this 5BR, 4 and 2 half BA home is loaded with high-end features, including custom closet system in elegant master retreat on main. Chef's kitchen with pot filler, beverage refrigerator, warming drawer, farm sink, sliding barn door and Wolf range opens up to vaulted, beamed ceilings in family room and screened porch with fireplace. Perfect for entertaining! Full daylight lower level is framed, roughed in for lg in-law suite.

Summary

MLS #5706779
Price1444800
Bedrooms5
Bathrooms (Full)4
Square Footage5000
Square Footage SourceBuilder
StatusActive

Features

5 Bed / 5 Bath Home in The River Club

5192 Boulder Bluff Way

Suwanee, GA 30024

$1425000
Fabulous build opportunity with builder Pat O'Donnell. Lot is nestled in quiet cul de sac close to The River Club amenity area. 5 bed/5.1 bath home. Master suite on main with spa like bath and his/her closet. Formal dining room/study, gourmet cook's kitchen over looking the great room and outside covered veranda with fireplace. Four additional bdrms upstairs all with private baths. Live in a community that meets expectations.

Summary

MLS #5741679
Price1425000
Bedrooms5
Bathrooms (Full)5
Square Footage4571
Square Footage SourceBuilder
StatusActive

Features

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Global Power… LOCAL DOMINANCE

Recently, I posted about how Century21.com is crushing the other major brokerage websites for unique visitors.  Well… that isn’t the whole story.

C21 Local and GlobalWhat is going on in the world at large is good to know, when you list YOUR house, you need to know what is going to happen with YOUR house.

  • Will an agent that gets an inquiry on it know anything about it?
  • Will an agent that gets an inquiry on it be motivated to sell it?
  • How will it appear online?
  • Will buyers even see it?

That is the basis of our Lock Down/Lift Up strategy.

C21 signFirst, we lock down the listings, meaning that every listing we have has OUR contact information next to it.  Each of MY listings has MY phone number next to it.  It has MY email next to it.  If they fill out the contact form, it gets sent to ME.  Obviously that is great for me… but it is pretty good for you, too.  I will know more about your home that some random agent that paid to be on any unrepresented listings, and I want it to sell as quickly as possible.

That is the Lock Down portion of the strategy.

The next thing we do is get premium locations for all of our listings.  When people search, OUR listings are the ones at the top of the results.  As buyers search, instead of going through pages and pages of homes, people generally only look at the first page.  We want OUR listings to be there… and if you are selling YOUR home, you want it there, too.

That is the Lift Up part.

And it isn’t just one or two places…  It’s

  • Zillow.com
  • Realtor.com
  • Trulia.com
  • Homefinder.com
  • Homes.com
  • RealEstateBook.com

The last post was about Global Power… but Local Dominance is where we are today.

When it’s time to sell, what do you want for YOUR house?

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Century21.com is CRUSHING IT!!

We just got a report in the office looking at website usage of the major brokerage sites… C21, RE/MAX, Keller Williams, etc.  The results may be surprising to a lot of people.

C21 signFor 2013, January through April, the number of unique visitors to the sites were as follows:

  • Century 21 – 10.6 million unique visitors
  • Coldwell Banker – 5.3 million unique visitors
  • RE/MAX – 4.6 million unique visitors
  • Weichert – 3.7 million unique visitors
  • Keller Williams – 3.0 million unique visitors
  • ERA – 700 thousand unique visitors
  • Prudential – 400 thousand unique visitors

It might be good to note that Century 21 Realty’s parent company is Realogy.  They also own ERA… as well as Better Homes & Gardens Realty, Sotheby’s International and Coldwell Banker.

C21 Local and GlobalBut there is another little tidbit that makes Century 21 a little more powerful for sellers.  Realogy owns a company called Cartus.  While most people may have never heard of them, they are one of the biggest corporate relocation partners in the world.  They feed those relocations into the Realogy system… and since Century 21 is easily the biggest, that is where most of them go.  And since Century 21 Results Realty Services is one of the biggest C21 franchises in this market, WE get a pretty good feed on those.

Normally I post about market stats and some news about real estate… sometimes views on things that can affect value or other tips for buyers or sellers.  But one of the things that can REALLY affect value is marketing power.

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It’s the Photos…

One of the most important things you can do to make your home stand out, whether it is on the MLS, Zillow, Trulia, Craigslist or some other site, is to have exceptional pictures.  Not just for bazillion dollar homes, either…

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Vivienne galleria, in the 2nd arrondissement of Paris. This panorama is made from 6 portrait pictures taken at 10mm (16mm in 35mm equiv.), f/8.0 and ISO 100. 3 exposures were blended to extend dynamic range and keep details in heterogeneously lit areas. All work was done with Hugin, Enblend, Enfuse and Gimp. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

There are some challenges, like vacant houses or those that really could use some freshening, but still, pictures are the first step in selling your house.  Video is nice… and virtual tours can add to the pictures… but in the end, having 5-10 great pictures, along with 15-20 good or better pictures (our local MLSs only accept 25 pictures) can be what gets eyeballs INSIDE your house.

Where the problems start are that few real estate agents take the time to learn how to shoot good pictures, or worse yet, they think that grabbing a few pictures with their phone will be just fine.  I know, phones have come a long way… but that doesn’t mean that they take pro-quality pictures.

Even better would be to hire a photographer to shoot the home.  Again, most agents just don’t feel that “this listing warrants that type of expenditure”.  Oddly, I have had agents tell me that when we were talking about $1M+ homes…  If they aren’t willing to hire a pro for a “seven digit home”, when are they?

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Image created using the redscale technique with Kodak MAX 400 film. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Luckily, I have a background in photography… and I still have hired in pros to shoot some of my listings.  It is simply too important.

But there is another problem that I run into… although not as frequently… that is manipulated images.  A little tweaking is fine, and some HDR shots might even be appropriate (HDR is High Dynamic Range, allowing both highlights and shadows to retain detail).  But, I see large areas of homes being digitally enhanced.  In fact, there is a service that digitally adds furniture to listing photos.

Of course, there actually IS a place for digital manipulation.  I have used a service that allows prospective buyers to “digitally remodel” a house.  They could go into key rooms and digitally alter details like wall and trim colors, floor surfaces and cabinetry and counters.  The big difference is that THEY started with a true representation of the room, and THEY made the changes.  They weren’t presented with an unrealistic portrayal of the area.

Some common things that get edited that might be ok would be trashcans by the street (seems easier to me to move them…) or a reflection of the photographer in a bathroom mirror.  But some things that cross the line… at least in my mind… are editing out power lines in the backyard, getting rid of stains on the carpet, cracks in the driveway and other defects which are factually accurate.

One direction that we have as REALTORS® is that we HAVE to honestly represent the property.  And as real estate licensees, we aren’t allowed to hide or lie about defects of which we have knowledge.  Advertising a proeprty should put it in its BEST light, but it should be honest, as well.

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Wayback Wednesday… a 3fer, Cheap Ways to Prep Your Home to Sell

 

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Normally, each week I pull a post from the past to highlight again.  This week, I’m pulling three of them.  They were all part of a series I did on Cheap Tips

 

It has never been more important to make sure your house shows as well as possible.  And for most sellers that I deal with (spelled n-o-t b-a-n-k-s), they don’t have a bottomless pit of cash to spend while getting ready to sell their home.  Finding efficient and inexpensive ways to make their home look WAY better than the foreclosure up the street are priorities. It doesn’t matter if you are hiring an agent selling unrepresented (FSBO or For Sale By Owner), these tips will help out.

Check out the posts from last year and feel free to drop some of your own tips in the comments.

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Craigslist Annoys Me…

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I use Craigslist to post listings…  I use Craigslist to cruise listings, too.  And I get annoyed almost every time I open the site…  I expect that you do, too.

The real estate ads seem to be the worst.  And real estate professionals are right in the thick of it.  I think it gives a bad name to all of us when so many of our peers have a flagrant disregard of the terms of use for the service.  If they don’t like the rules, don’t use the site.  If they still think that the exposure is valuable, follow the rules.

There are a few things that my peers do that are over the edge…

  • Spam/Overposting. Craigslist rules limit re-posting of an ad to once every 48 hours.  Yet, when I log in, I see some ads re-posted as many as 20 times in a single day.  Real estate agents aren’t the only people violating this rule… but we might be the biggest group.
  • Mis-categorization. This comes in two flavors.
    • Flavor one is posting service ads in real estate categories.  It isn’t that hard to figure out… an ad promoting YOU as a real estate agent is NOT the same as an ad for a property.  There is a place for you to advertise yourself.
    • Flavor two is posting ads in the wrong category on purpose… to try to get renters to buy.  And the worst type of this is where the poster doesn’t actually disclose that they are talking about a “rent-to-own” house rather than a rental.  When someone calls, they put out the hard sell to get them into any property that they have available.
  • Failure to Disclose. This one is an actual licensing law violation.  Whenever a real estate agent or broker places an ad, they HAVE to disclose that they are licensed, and the name of the brokerage where the license is held.  There also has to be a number to contact the brokerage.
  • Blind Ads. These are a variation of the failure to disclose… but the agent (not always a licensed agent, though) will post a REALLY vague ad and then just use anyone that calls as a lead and see what they might be able to sell them.  Often they don’t even know of a property that matches the ad they posted.

There are a few things that we (as real estate professionals) and you (as consumers) can do to turn the tide.  We need to police ourselves so that we can all have a better experience.

When I talk with agents that use these tactics, they always give the same responses… they are doing it to get a leg up on the competition.  So, we agents need to make a decision to NOT use these types of tactics.  As brokers, we can stop our agents from using them.  People post their ads over and over in order to keep them on page one.  Well… if you post YOUR ad there 6-20 times a day, and everyone else does that too, you HAVE to post it over and over because there are now 6-20 times more ads.

As consumers… and agents… flag the rule breakers.  When their ads go away, they don’t get ANY leg up.  At some point, CL will start banning IPs from posting and killing accounts of spammers.  Heck, maybe they already do.  But, when these folks start having big issues with their “Craigslist Domination Strategy” and they get nothing because of their behavior, they will change.

And we all get a better experience…

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